Barack Obama (part 12)
I will not be continuing my Creationism posts today. I do plan to return to them soon.
Then, I plan to answer the response about Iraq. I am sorry for the change in plans. Plans, in reality, often are altered for one reason or another. “The best laid plans … often go astray.” Thank you for your understanding and patience.
How many unborn toddlers were murdered today because of the humanistic, paganish, barbaric decisions of the United States Supreme Court?
Stop the
Murder of
Unborn
Toddlers
“Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.” James 4: 17 (NIV)
http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/ShameOfKansas
www.childpredators.com
www.lifedynamics.com
www.aclj.org
www.libertylegal.org
www.alliancedefensefund.org
www.searchtv.org
I began my first two posts of this series with the following comments: “The following article is from World magazine which is the only weekly magazine that I read regularly. Because of the work I had been doing for my clients, I have fallen behind (once again) on my reading. I had just finished reading this article the other day. I was going to do material on Mr. Obama and after reading the article decided this was a good time to do just that. The two previous posts—Seven things GOD hates and MURDER on a MASSIVE SCALE—were preludes to this series.
Tonight’s post continues with more material from the 2004 Senate election when Barack Obama was first elected to the United States Senate. The information comes from a transcript from “Alan Keys ARCHIVES / U.S. Senate Debate sponsored by the League of Women Voters,” pages 30-33 of 43 pages.
The material begins with Mr. Obama responding to a statement attributed to Mr. Keyes that JESUS would vote for Mr. Keyes rather than Mr. Obama.
“Obama: Well, you know, my first reaction was, I actually wanted to find out who Mr. Keyes’ pollster was, because if I had the opportunity to talk to Jesus Christ, I’d be asking something much more important than this senate race. I’d want to know whether I was going up, or down. There are all sorts of questions, I think, that I’d be interested in.”
Look, I’m very proud of my Christianity, and it sustains me and it’s part of what motivates me to get involved in public service. As I said before, I started in this town, in Chicago, organizing with churches, and the enormous faith and resilience and courage that was shown by persons of faith made all the difference in the world, in terms of setting up after-school programs for youth, or making sure that we have affordable housing in many communities that are having tough times all across this state.
But, what I don’t think is appropriate, as a public servant, is for me to assume my faith is absolute and to, therefore, presume that people who are of different faiths, and have different perspectives, are somehow evil, or wrong, or that I can’t have a dialogue with them and arrive at common ground.”
“Keyes: But of course, the question involved here wasn’t people of different faiths, but people who profess the same faith, and that faith is faith in Jesus Christ. And the question, I think, that I would pose to the Lord is not whether I’m ‘going up’ or ‘going down.’ I want to know where He stands, so that I may follow Him.
I want to know where He stands with respect to the will of the Father, to Whom He looks. And on these questions, like abortion, He says the taking of innocent life is an abomination.
On these questions, like traditional marriage, He says He created us male and female, and that the wrong use of the body in this way is, again, as the Scripture says—an abomination. He defined marriage not as the union of man and man, or woman and woman, but as man and woman, and ‘the two become one flesh’—something that is possible only in the course of procreation.
So, when I look at where Christ stands, and I look at where Senator Obama stands, based upon that record of Christ’s understanding which we acknowledge as Christians to be the true record, I say, ‘Well, Christ is over here. Senator Obama’s over there. The two don’t look the same.’
And that means that I’m not thinking about Alan Keyes. I am thinking about the Lord.
And to say I don’t have the right to do that means that you’re trying to suggest that my faith-shaped conscience has no place in our politics. And yet, if I go into the voting booth or into public life without my faith-shaped conscience, then I have no conscience.
For, the Lord said I must love Him with my whole heart, soul, mind, and strength. There’s nothing left over. Without faith, there’s just a faith-shaped void where the conscience ought to be.
And I challenge all the voters of this state who profess to believe in Christ: ‘How can you vote from such a faith-shaped void?’ Without the Lord, your vote will not be based upon that faith which ought to shape your life. And for anyone to suggest that you leave it behind—at the door of the voting booth or public service—suggests something utterly incompatible with what the Lord Himself told us about the meaning of life.”
“Obama: I don’t need Mr. Keyes lecturing me about Christianity. That’s why I have a pastor. That’s why I have my Bible. That’s why I have my own prayer. And I don’t think that any of you are particularly interested in having Mr. Keyes lecture you about your faith.
What you’re interested in is solving problems like jobs, and health care, and education. I’m not running to be the minister of Illinois. (That’s good because he would have failed miserably. I wasn’t going to comment as I presented this but I could not keep silent about this statement by Mr. Obama.—my addition) I’m running to be its United States Senator.”
“Keyes: I think that answer is typical.
When it really comes down to it, though Senator Obama professes faith when it’s convenient to get votes, at the hard points where that faith must be followed and explained to folks, and stood up for and witnessed to as folks who were martyrs in the early church said, he then pleads separation of church and state, something found nowhere in the Constitution, and certainly found nowhere in the Scripture as such. So, I’ve got to tell you, I think that this is a typical example that ought to be examined carefully by discerning people of Christian conscience.”
Where is Senator Barack Obama’s FAITH as he supports and promotes the MURDER of unborn babies?
Where is Senator Barack Obama’s REPENTANCE as he supports and promotes the MURDER of unborn babies?
Where is Senator Barack Obama’s OBEDIENCE as he supports and promotes the MURDER of unborn babies?
“‘The Lord knows those who are his,’ and, ‘Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.’” II Timothy 2: 19b (NIV)
“Many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is Destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things.” Philippians 3: 18b-19 (NIV)
“Do not be misled; ‘Bad company corrupts good character.’” I Corinthians 15: 33 (NIV)
“They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.” Titus 1: 16 (NIV)
“‘What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul?’” Matthew 16: 26a (NIV)
I will not be continuing my Creationism posts today. I do plan to return to them soon.
Then, I plan to answer the response about Iraq. I am sorry for the change in plans. Plans, in reality, often are altered for one reason or another. “The best laid plans … often go astray.” Thank you for your understanding and patience.
How many unborn toddlers were murdered today because of the humanistic, paganish, barbaric decisions of the United States Supreme Court?
Stop the
Murder of
Unborn
Toddlers
“Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.” James 4: 17 (NIV)
http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/ShameOfKansas
www.childpredators.com
www.lifedynamics.com
www.aclj.org
www.libertylegal.org
www.alliancedefensefund.org
www.searchtv.org
I began my first two posts of this series with the following comments: “The following article is from World magazine which is the only weekly magazine that I read regularly. Because of the work I had been doing for my clients, I have fallen behind (once again) on my reading. I had just finished reading this article the other day. I was going to do material on Mr. Obama and after reading the article decided this was a good time to do just that. The two previous posts—Seven things GOD hates and MURDER on a MASSIVE SCALE—were preludes to this series.
Tonight’s post continues with more material from the 2004 Senate election when Barack Obama was first elected to the United States Senate. The information comes from a transcript from “Alan Keys ARCHIVES / U.S. Senate Debate sponsored by the League of Women Voters,” pages 30-33 of 43 pages.
The material begins with Mr. Obama responding to a statement attributed to Mr. Keyes that JESUS would vote for Mr. Keyes rather than Mr. Obama.
“Obama: Well, you know, my first reaction was, I actually wanted to find out who Mr. Keyes’ pollster was, because if I had the opportunity to talk to Jesus Christ, I’d be asking something much more important than this senate race. I’d want to know whether I was going up, or down. There are all sorts of questions, I think, that I’d be interested in.”
Look, I’m very proud of my Christianity, and it sustains me and it’s part of what motivates me to get involved in public service. As I said before, I started in this town, in Chicago, organizing with churches, and the enormous faith and resilience and courage that was shown by persons of faith made all the difference in the world, in terms of setting up after-school programs for youth, or making sure that we have affordable housing in many communities that are having tough times all across this state.
But, what I don’t think is appropriate, as a public servant, is for me to assume my faith is absolute and to, therefore, presume that people who are of different faiths, and have different perspectives, are somehow evil, or wrong, or that I can’t have a dialogue with them and arrive at common ground.”
“Keyes: But of course, the question involved here wasn’t people of different faiths, but people who profess the same faith, and that faith is faith in Jesus Christ. And the question, I think, that I would pose to the Lord is not whether I’m ‘going up’ or ‘going down.’ I want to know where He stands, so that I may follow Him.
I want to know where He stands with respect to the will of the Father, to Whom He looks. And on these questions, like abortion, He says the taking of innocent life is an abomination.
On these questions, like traditional marriage, He says He created us male and female, and that the wrong use of the body in this way is, again, as the Scripture says—an abomination. He defined marriage not as the union of man and man, or woman and woman, but as man and woman, and ‘the two become one flesh’—something that is possible only in the course of procreation.
So, when I look at where Christ stands, and I look at where Senator Obama stands, based upon that record of Christ’s understanding which we acknowledge as Christians to be the true record, I say, ‘Well, Christ is over here. Senator Obama’s over there. The two don’t look the same.’
And that means that I’m not thinking about Alan Keyes. I am thinking about the Lord.
And to say I don’t have the right to do that means that you’re trying to suggest that my faith-shaped conscience has no place in our politics. And yet, if I go into the voting booth or into public life without my faith-shaped conscience, then I have no conscience.
For, the Lord said I must love Him with my whole heart, soul, mind, and strength. There’s nothing left over. Without faith, there’s just a faith-shaped void where the conscience ought to be.
And I challenge all the voters of this state who profess to believe in Christ: ‘How can you vote from such a faith-shaped void?’ Without the Lord, your vote will not be based upon that faith which ought to shape your life. And for anyone to suggest that you leave it behind—at the door of the voting booth or public service—suggests something utterly incompatible with what the Lord Himself told us about the meaning of life.”
“Obama: I don’t need Mr. Keyes lecturing me about Christianity. That’s why I have a pastor. That’s why I have my Bible. That’s why I have my own prayer. And I don’t think that any of you are particularly interested in having Mr. Keyes lecture you about your faith.
What you’re interested in is solving problems like jobs, and health care, and education. I’m not running to be the minister of Illinois. (That’s good because he would have failed miserably. I wasn’t going to comment as I presented this but I could not keep silent about this statement by Mr. Obama.—my addition) I’m running to be its United States Senator.”
“Keyes: I think that answer is typical.
When it really comes down to it, though Senator Obama professes faith when it’s convenient to get votes, at the hard points where that faith must be followed and explained to folks, and stood up for and witnessed to as folks who were martyrs in the early church said, he then pleads separation of church and state, something found nowhere in the Constitution, and certainly found nowhere in the Scripture as such. So, I’ve got to tell you, I think that this is a typical example that ought to be examined carefully by discerning people of Christian conscience.”
Where is Senator Barack Obama’s FAITH as he supports and promotes the MURDER of unborn babies?
Where is Senator Barack Obama’s REPENTANCE as he supports and promotes the MURDER of unborn babies?
Where is Senator Barack Obama’s OBEDIENCE as he supports and promotes the MURDER of unborn babies?
“‘The Lord knows those who are his,’ and, ‘Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.’” II Timothy 2: 19b (NIV)
“Many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is Destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things.” Philippians 3: 18b-19 (NIV)
“Do not be misled; ‘Bad company corrupts good character.’” I Corinthians 15: 33 (NIV)
“They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.” Titus 1: 16 (NIV)
“‘What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul?’” Matthew 16: 26a (NIV)
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