Gabrielle Giffords and her murder attempt, part 2
From: 9/12 Project Network
“Shooters mother works for Pima county—Sheriff Dupnik knew this.
Posted by Deborah X XXXXX (Name removed by me for security purposes—my addition.) on January 11, 2011 at 9:04am in News, Issues, & Politics
.. Sheriff Dupnik’s Culpability
by Bill Hennessy on January 10, 2011 .... According to an internal Department of Homeland Security memo, Jarod Lee Loughner’s mother ‘works for Pima County Board of Supervisors.’
In the memo, obtained by Fox News and posted on Greta Van Susteren’s blog, the DHS agent openly speculates about undue internal influence. That’s because Loughner’s arrests don’t all end with reasonable closure, if you will.
Here’s exactly what the DHS report says:
‘suspect’s mother works for the Pima County Board of Supervisors* the suspect has multiple arrests … But no criminal record? Intervention by someone?’
It’s not unreasonable to assume that that ‘someone’ is Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.
On Saturday evening, Dupnik took to the airwaves to create a sensation. He accused the people of Arizona, talk radio, Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, and the tea party of complicity in murder, effectively. The sheriff did so without evidence.
If Dupnik was involved in springing Loughner after one of the murderer’s many arrests, then Dupnik had strong motive to manufacture a bogeyman. If Dupnik helped keep Loughner stay out of the state psych system, then his motive doubles. There’s mounting evidence that Dupnik is guilty of both.
We already know that Dupnik refused to uphold Arizona’s SB1070 (which is Arizona‘s newly passed illegal immigration law which the Obama Administration is challenging in court—my addition). We already know that he holds the people of Arizona in the highest contempt. A law enforcement officer who despises the people he’s sworn to protect and who refuses to enforce the law he’s sworn to uphold is unfit for office.
If I were Arizona’s Attorney General, I’d be actively putting together a case for some warrants.
But, as Dennis Miller would say, that’s just my opinion; I could be wrong.”
From: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=176947
“Gotcha Sheriff Clarence ‘XXXXXXX’ (Edited out by me—my addition.) Dupnik
Posted 2011-01-10 13:29
by Karl Denninger in Editorial
Oh, you better hope this is not true:
[From: http://thechollajumps.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-is-a-product-of-sheriff-dupniks-office/
“The Cholla Jumps
Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
by James Kelley
This is the report that Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has been dreading since the tragic event on Saturday January 8.
The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it. He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.
Jared Loughner, pronounced by the Sheriff as “Lock-ner,” saying it was the Polish pronunciation. Of course he meant Scott or Irish but that isn’t the point. The point is he and his office have had previous contact with the alleged assailant in the past and that is how he knows how to pronounce the name.
Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation. My sympathies and my heart goes out to her and the rest of Mr. Loughner’s family. This tragedy must be tearing them up inside wondering if they had done the right things in trying to manage Jared’s obvious mental instability.
Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more.
This was not an act of politics. This was an act of a mentally disturbed young man XXXX (Edited out by me—my addition.) bent on getting his 15 minutes of infamy. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.”]
‘The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it. He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.’
What have I been saying? That in point of fact the Sheriff had every opportunity to stop this assault by actually enforcing the law and didn’t do so.
Well now the truth is alleged to be this ..... It’s much worse, it appears, than anyone thought:
‘Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation.’
What’s your response to this Mr. Dupnik? A bit of truth comes out, eh? Exactly how many felonies did you decline to investigate and prosecute? Are you going to slink away from the white-hot light of truth or will you ‘man up’ and admit that your scurrilous allegations were disseminated simply to try to save your own hide from the entirely-appropriate wrath at the ballot box that is certain to ensue come next election?
The suspect didn’t just post one threat on an Internet forum and there wasn’t ‘just one’ incident—it’s alleged here that he made multiple death threats against the staff of the college he was ejected from, radio personalities and local bloggers.
Each and every one of those threats was an offense and had just one of them been prosecuted it would have resulted in the suspect being blacklisted in the NICS database—and thus he would not have been able to buy the gun he shot the people in Tucson with.
And before you go off on this guy and his blog being some sort of nut, here’s the credentials from his page:
‘James Kelley is a native of Tucson, born here in 1961. A Navy veteran, he graduated twice from the Defense Language Institute in Monterey CA majoring in Albanian and Persian-Farsi. He was a Balkan area, Middle East North Africa, Southwest Asia, and Gulf Area analyst for the Naval Security Group and the National Security Agency. He received his Bachelor of Science in Sociology from the University of the State of New York, Albany. Since leaving the service he has worked as a premium cruise line representative, telecommunications specialist, real estate broker, and as a substitute teacher in local school districts.
Presently, Mr. Kelley is a contributing columnist for the Arizona News-Telegraph and the Executive Director of SocialNetworkingWatchdog.Org, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization dedicated to educating youth and seniors on personal security while using social networking.’”
“Best-a-luck in the next election Sheriff.
You’re gonna need it.”
Clarence Dupnik is the longtime Sheriff for Pima County. I believe I read on one of the stories I have been following that he is 76. I don’t know when his next election is. He is also a longtime Democrat—Pima County and Tucson are Democratic areas. He is the antithesis of Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County where Phoenix is located.
The Tucson area tends to reelect their representatives at all levels unless the representative is involved in a scandal of some type. This may be the necessary scandal if he runs for reelection. Then again, it may not be. California and New York reelected the same old scoundrels in the 2010 election. The Tucson area also reelected Gabrielle Giffords and Raul Grijalva in 2010—both of whom deserved to be defeated based upon their voting records in Congress. Representative Grijalva even called for a boycott of Arizona because of the newly passed illegal immigration law.
One final note: The attempt to associate these murders with conservatives and the present political rhetoric seems to be failing, as it should.
From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41014125?GT1=43001
“‘Political tone’
On Tuesday, CBS News released a nationwide telephone poll that found a majority of Americans reject the view that heated political rhetoric was a factor in the weekend shootings.
Since Saturday, various politicians and commentators have said a climate in which strong language and ideological polarization is common may have contributed to the attack. (May have? Some directly blamed talk radio, Sarah Palin, the Tea Party movement and anyone else they could think of who is conservative!—my addition)
But CBS said its poll found that, ‘57 percent of respondents said the harsh political tone had nothing to do with the shooting, compared to 32 percent who felt it did.’” (Which means that the 32 percent are either “true believers” or really naïve/gullible or both—my addition.)
The person responsible for these murders is the shooter. Plain and simple. We each are responsible for our own actions and beliefs. And so is the murderer of these innocent people.
Personal responsibility!!! Live with it!!! It is a fact of life!!!
I’m praying for Gabrielle Giffords, her family, and for her complete recovery. I am also praying that she and the shooter repent and turn to GOD, JESUS, the HOLY SPIRIT (the three in one GOD of the universe) the only SAVIOR for her personally, for the shooter personally, for me personally, for each of us personally.
From: 9/12 Project Network
“Shooters mother works for Pima county—Sheriff Dupnik knew this.
Posted by Deborah X XXXXX (Name removed by me for security purposes—my addition.) on January 11, 2011 at 9:04am in News, Issues, & Politics
.. Sheriff Dupnik’s Culpability
by Bill Hennessy on January 10, 2011 .... According to an internal Department of Homeland Security memo, Jarod Lee Loughner’s mother ‘works for Pima County Board of Supervisors.’
In the memo, obtained by Fox News and posted on Greta Van Susteren’s blog, the DHS agent openly speculates about undue internal influence. That’s because Loughner’s arrests don’t all end with reasonable closure, if you will.
Here’s exactly what the DHS report says:
‘suspect’s mother works for the Pima County Board of Supervisors* the suspect has multiple arrests … But no criminal record? Intervention by someone?’
It’s not unreasonable to assume that that ‘someone’ is Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.
On Saturday evening, Dupnik took to the airwaves to create a sensation. He accused the people of Arizona, talk radio, Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, and the tea party of complicity in murder, effectively. The sheriff did so without evidence.
If Dupnik was involved in springing Loughner after one of the murderer’s many arrests, then Dupnik had strong motive to manufacture a bogeyman. If Dupnik helped keep Loughner stay out of the state psych system, then his motive doubles. There’s mounting evidence that Dupnik is guilty of both.
We already know that Dupnik refused to uphold Arizona’s SB1070 (which is Arizona‘s newly passed illegal immigration law which the Obama Administration is challenging in court—my addition). We already know that he holds the people of Arizona in the highest contempt. A law enforcement officer who despises the people he’s sworn to protect and who refuses to enforce the law he’s sworn to uphold is unfit for office.
If I were Arizona’s Attorney General, I’d be actively putting together a case for some warrants.
But, as Dennis Miller would say, that’s just my opinion; I could be wrong.”
From: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=176947
“Gotcha Sheriff Clarence ‘XXXXXXX’ (Edited out by me—my addition.) Dupnik
Posted 2011-01-10 13:29
by Karl Denninger in Editorial
Oh, you better hope this is not true:
[From: http://thechollajumps.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-is-a-product-of-sheriff-dupniks-office/
“The Cholla Jumps
Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
by James Kelley
This is the report that Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has been dreading since the tragic event on Saturday January 8.
The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it. He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.
Jared Loughner, pronounced by the Sheriff as “Lock-ner,” saying it was the Polish pronunciation. Of course he meant Scott or Irish but that isn’t the point. The point is he and his office have had previous contact with the alleged assailant in the past and that is how he knows how to pronounce the name.
Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation. My sympathies and my heart goes out to her and the rest of Mr. Loughner’s family. This tragedy must be tearing them up inside wondering if they had done the right things in trying to manage Jared’s obvious mental instability.
Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more.
This was not an act of politics. This was an act of a mentally disturbed young man XXXX (Edited out by me—my addition.) bent on getting his 15 minutes of infamy. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.”]
‘The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it. He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.’
What have I been saying? That in point of fact the Sheriff had every opportunity to stop this assault by actually enforcing the law and didn’t do so.
Well now the truth is alleged to be this ..... It’s much worse, it appears, than anyone thought:
‘Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation.’
What’s your response to this Mr. Dupnik? A bit of truth comes out, eh? Exactly how many felonies did you decline to investigate and prosecute? Are you going to slink away from the white-hot light of truth or will you ‘man up’ and admit that your scurrilous allegations were disseminated simply to try to save your own hide from the entirely-appropriate wrath at the ballot box that is certain to ensue come next election?
The suspect didn’t just post one threat on an Internet forum and there wasn’t ‘just one’ incident—it’s alleged here that he made multiple death threats against the staff of the college he was ejected from, radio personalities and local bloggers.
Each and every one of those threats was an offense and had just one of them been prosecuted it would have resulted in the suspect being blacklisted in the NICS database—and thus he would not have been able to buy the gun he shot the people in Tucson with.
And before you go off on this guy and his blog being some sort of nut, here’s the credentials from his page:
‘James Kelley is a native of Tucson, born here in 1961. A Navy veteran, he graduated twice from the Defense Language Institute in Monterey CA majoring in Albanian and Persian-Farsi. He was a Balkan area, Middle East North Africa, Southwest Asia, and Gulf Area analyst for the Naval Security Group and the National Security Agency. He received his Bachelor of Science in Sociology from the University of the State of New York, Albany. Since leaving the service he has worked as a premium cruise line representative, telecommunications specialist, real estate broker, and as a substitute teacher in local school districts.
Presently, Mr. Kelley is a contributing columnist for the Arizona News-Telegraph and the Executive Director of SocialNetworkingWatchdog.Org, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization dedicated to educating youth and seniors on personal security while using social networking.’”
“Best-a-luck in the next election Sheriff.
You’re gonna need it.”
Clarence Dupnik is the longtime Sheriff for Pima County. I believe I read on one of the stories I have been following that he is 76. I don’t know when his next election is. He is also a longtime Democrat—Pima County and Tucson are Democratic areas. He is the antithesis of Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County where Phoenix is located.
The Tucson area tends to reelect their representatives at all levels unless the representative is involved in a scandal of some type. This may be the necessary scandal if he runs for reelection. Then again, it may not be. California and New York reelected the same old scoundrels in the 2010 election. The Tucson area also reelected Gabrielle Giffords and Raul Grijalva in 2010—both of whom deserved to be defeated based upon their voting records in Congress. Representative Grijalva even called for a boycott of Arizona because of the newly passed illegal immigration law.
One final note: The attempt to associate these murders with conservatives and the present political rhetoric seems to be failing, as it should.
From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41014125?GT1=43001
“‘Political tone’
On Tuesday, CBS News released a nationwide telephone poll that found a majority of Americans reject the view that heated political rhetoric was a factor in the weekend shootings.
Since Saturday, various politicians and commentators have said a climate in which strong language and ideological polarization is common may have contributed to the attack. (May have? Some directly blamed talk radio, Sarah Palin, the Tea Party movement and anyone else they could think of who is conservative!—my addition)
But CBS said its poll found that, ‘57 percent of respondents said the harsh political tone had nothing to do with the shooting, compared to 32 percent who felt it did.’” (Which means that the 32 percent are either “true believers” or really naïve/gullible or both—my addition.)
The person responsible for these murders is the shooter. Plain and simple. We each are responsible for our own actions and beliefs. And so is the murderer of these innocent people.
Personal responsibility!!! Live with it!!! It is a fact of life!!!
I’m praying for Gabrielle Giffords, her family, and for her complete recovery. I am also praying that she and the shooter repent and turn to GOD, JESUS, the HOLY SPIRIT (the three in one GOD of the universe) the only SAVIOR for her personally, for the shooter personally, for me personally, for each of us personally.
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