Selling beer and wine in Morton—not a past issue
My book—The Black Sword: The Secret U.S. Army in Vietnam—is available by mail (not yet in book stores). See post on July 31, 2008 entitled The Black Sword.
I suggest you check out the following website if you are a policy holder of Farmers Insurance Group or thinking about having them insure you in any capacity: http://www.farmersinsurancegroupsucks.com/
https://affiliates.visionforum.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=367
The above link is for a company—Vision Forum—that provides unique products for the family. I am an affiliate for the company and receive a small commission whenever someone uses this link and then makes an unreturned purchase while using the link. Check it out. I think you might like the products offered. I do. See my more complete explanation on my post of February 1, 2008 entitled “Affiliate program with Vision Forum.”
Based upon past historical data: 3,287+ UNBORN BABY MURDERS have occurred in the last 24 hours in the United States. See my post “BABY HOLOCAUST” posted January 22, 2008.
I’ve been involved in a problem one of my clients has with Farmers Insurance Group. My previous posts in relation to this problem were:
September 10, 2007 post: “Beware of Farmers Insurance Group”
September 11, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Group’s response”
September 18, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Company received the requested list”
September 19, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Company’s response to the list”
October 16, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Group and my request for information”
November 27, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Group does not respond to my request”
January 11, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group latest stall”
January 12, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group is sent a response”
January 14, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group pays some money”
January 19, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group continues to be obstinate”
January 26, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group receives another request”
February 11, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group shows how low they will go?”
February 12, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group: If I were going to respond to the final letter”
February 13, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group and associated companies”
February 14, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group and how others rate the company”
I will not be continuing my Creationism posts today. I do not plan to get to them until after the general election in November.
I do plan to discuss Iraq before the election. I am sorry for the change in plans. Plans, in reality, often are altered for one reason or another. “The best laid plans … often go astray.” Thank you for your understanding and patience.
How many unborn toddlers were murdered today because of the humanistic, paganish, barbaric decisions of the United States Supreme Court?
Stop the
Murder of
Unborn
Toddlers
“Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.” James 4: 17 (NIV)
http://www.farmersinsurancegroupsucks.com/
http://www.childpredators.com/
http://www.lifedynamics.com/
http://www.libertylegal.org/
http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/
http://www.searchtv.org/
Tonight’s post deals with the following anonymous comment which is posted exactly as written:
“Anonymous said
Is it any surprise that they didnt run on the issue of allowing grocery stores to sell beer and wine? Was it even an issue at the time often new political issues come up between elections and its not realistic to expect to present a position on every possible issue that could up during their term of office.
2: 33 PM”
That is exactly my point. As far as I know, it was a non-issue. It has been a non-issue for more than fifty years. For years and years, the community seemed to be more than satisfied with the liquor ordinance as written. They seemed to be satisfied with it enough that less than two years ago it was not an issue, as far as I know, in the last election for members of the Board of Trustees.
As far as I know, there is no burning need for this quick rewriting of the ordinance. And from my experience as a school board member, it is a quick change in a major policy. Although the Board may have been studying it for a year or more, as I’ve written before, the public is not going to react to it until it is actually proposed that the ordinance be changed—that did not occur until July 10th during the State of the Village address.
And yet, it is admitted that neither of the two current grocery stores have asked for the ability to sell beer and wine. In fact, as was pointed out in the discussion on August 18th at the Trustee meeting, Wal-Mart, which was built within the last five years, owned land that was outside of the Village. The land was annexed by the Village and the Village specifically required Wal-Mart, as was stipulated in the liquor ordinance, not to market beer and wine or any other alcoholic beverages and Wal-Mart agreed.
It is possible that the ordinance was advanced so rapidly because Lindy’s was hoping to build in Morton and was not going to do so unless the store could sell beer and wine. However, that has been denied by the mayor and the owners have refused to respond to the direct questions I asked them. In any case, the owners have said that they will not be building in Morton and no one has claimed, that I know of, that any other grocery store is waiting on the horizon to build in Morton if they can sell beer and wine.
Without question, this is an important issue in Morton. The mayor has stated publicly that he knew that there would be opposition to the proposal. The two meetings where the issue was publicly discussed had more attendance than any public Trustee meeting, that I know of, since I moved back to Morton over four years ago. We even had TV coverage from the major networks which is not normal.
So, why the rush? Why not have this be an issue at the next election in April? My guess is, that if they had waited until after the April election to finalize the decision there would be more than the current three incumbents on the ballot. There would be electoral competition and this issue would be a central issue of the election campaign.
And indeed, because the mayor and council has passed these amendments already, it is my hope that this issue will be the central issue at the next election. Hopefully, there will be someone challenging the mayor and at least four candidates for the three Trustee positions. By the way, I consider election challenges to be a positive development so the present decision is not all bad if it does generate competition at the ballot box. I don’t think that was the aim of the four Trustees, however.
Here is a potential problem with the Board of Trustees rush to change the ordinances. Let’s say that I decide to run for the Board of Trustees (and I certain am not saying, at this time, that I am going to do so), and I get elected along with Trustees Hermann and Kaufman who had previously voted against the proposed amendments. Each of us campaigned on the position that if elected we would reverse the previous Board’s position. Furthermore, the mayor is defeated by a candidate who also campaigned to repeal the amendments.
But wait, in the mean time, both grocery stores applied for and received the new grocery store liquor licenses. Both stores remodeled their store to sell beer and wine and cut merchandise in other areas to make room for beer and wine. Both stores are now selling beer and wine.
I and the new mayor both campaigned to repeal the ordinances. I certain would vote to do so since I now have a voter sanctioned mandate. The ordinances are repealed. Both grocery stores spent thousands of dollars in anticipation of selling beer and wine as legally allowed and now because of the repeal of the ordinance, they must return to compliance with the previous liquor ordinance.
Would it not have been better to wait a few more months since there was no compelling reason to pass the changes immediately and get a better idea through an election whether or not the amendments were actually supported by the people rather than cause possibly negative ramifications in the business community? What will businesses looking at Morton with the intent to build here think of such an unsettled governmental environment—where an ordinance is overturned in less than a year after passage? Sometimes, circumspection is the better part of governance.
I, for one, hope that these amendments are the CENTRAL ISSUE in the next two elections. Let the chips fall where they may. The present Board of Trustees has thrown down the gauntlet. The question is, will the opposition rise to the challenge. I hope so!
“He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me, scatters.” [said by JESUS] Luke 11: 23 (NIV)
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight.” I Corinthians 3: 19a (NIV)
“For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline.” II Timothy 1: 7 (NIV)
“Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.” James 4: 17 (NIV)
“Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.” Galatians 6: 7-8 (NIV)
My book—The Black Sword: The Secret U.S. Army in Vietnam—is available by mail (not yet in book stores). See post on July 31, 2008 entitled The Black Sword.
I suggest you check out the following website if you are a policy holder of Farmers Insurance Group or thinking about having them insure you in any capacity: http://www.farmersinsurancegroupsucks.com/
https://affiliates.visionforum.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=367
The above link is for a company—Vision Forum—that provides unique products for the family. I am an affiliate for the company and receive a small commission whenever someone uses this link and then makes an unreturned purchase while using the link. Check it out. I think you might like the products offered. I do. See my more complete explanation on my post of February 1, 2008 entitled “Affiliate program with Vision Forum.”
Based upon past historical data: 3,287+ UNBORN BABY MURDERS have occurred in the last 24 hours in the United States. See my post “BABY HOLOCAUST” posted January 22, 2008.
I’ve been involved in a problem one of my clients has with Farmers Insurance Group. My previous posts in relation to this problem were:
September 10, 2007 post: “Beware of Farmers Insurance Group”
September 11, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Group’s response”
September 18, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Company received the requested list”
September 19, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Company’s response to the list”
October 16, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Group and my request for information”
November 27, 2007 post: “Farmers Insurance Group does not respond to my request”
January 11, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group latest stall”
January 12, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group is sent a response”
January 14, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group pays some money”
January 19, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group continues to be obstinate”
January 26, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group receives another request”
February 11, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group shows how low they will go?”
February 12, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group: If I were going to respond to the final letter”
February 13, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group and associated companies”
February 14, 2008 post: “Farmers Insurance Group and how others rate the company”
I will not be continuing my Creationism posts today. I do not plan to get to them until after the general election in November.
I do plan to discuss Iraq before the election. I am sorry for the change in plans. Plans, in reality, often are altered for one reason or another. “The best laid plans … often go astray.” Thank you for your understanding and patience.
How many unborn toddlers were murdered today because of the humanistic, paganish, barbaric decisions of the United States Supreme Court?
Stop the
Murder of
Unborn
Toddlers
“Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.” James 4: 17 (NIV)
http://www.farmersinsurancegroupsucks.com/
http://www.childpredators.com/
http://www.lifedynamics.com/
http://www.libertylegal.org/
http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/
http://www.searchtv.org/
Tonight’s post deals with the following anonymous comment which is posted exactly as written:
“Anonymous said
Is it any surprise that they didnt run on the issue of allowing grocery stores to sell beer and wine? Was it even an issue at the time often new political issues come up between elections and its not realistic to expect to present a position on every possible issue that could up during their term of office.
2: 33 PM”
That is exactly my point. As far as I know, it was a non-issue. It has been a non-issue for more than fifty years. For years and years, the community seemed to be more than satisfied with the liquor ordinance as written. They seemed to be satisfied with it enough that less than two years ago it was not an issue, as far as I know, in the last election for members of the Board of Trustees.
As far as I know, there is no burning need for this quick rewriting of the ordinance. And from my experience as a school board member, it is a quick change in a major policy. Although the Board may have been studying it for a year or more, as I’ve written before, the public is not going to react to it until it is actually proposed that the ordinance be changed—that did not occur until July 10th during the State of the Village address.
And yet, it is admitted that neither of the two current grocery stores have asked for the ability to sell beer and wine. In fact, as was pointed out in the discussion on August 18th at the Trustee meeting, Wal-Mart, which was built within the last five years, owned land that was outside of the Village. The land was annexed by the Village and the Village specifically required Wal-Mart, as was stipulated in the liquor ordinance, not to market beer and wine or any other alcoholic beverages and Wal-Mart agreed.
It is possible that the ordinance was advanced so rapidly because Lindy’s was hoping to build in Morton and was not going to do so unless the store could sell beer and wine. However, that has been denied by the mayor and the owners have refused to respond to the direct questions I asked them. In any case, the owners have said that they will not be building in Morton and no one has claimed, that I know of, that any other grocery store is waiting on the horizon to build in Morton if they can sell beer and wine.
Without question, this is an important issue in Morton. The mayor has stated publicly that he knew that there would be opposition to the proposal. The two meetings where the issue was publicly discussed had more attendance than any public Trustee meeting, that I know of, since I moved back to Morton over four years ago. We even had TV coverage from the major networks which is not normal.
So, why the rush? Why not have this be an issue at the next election in April? My guess is, that if they had waited until after the April election to finalize the decision there would be more than the current three incumbents on the ballot. There would be electoral competition and this issue would be a central issue of the election campaign.
And indeed, because the mayor and council has passed these amendments already, it is my hope that this issue will be the central issue at the next election. Hopefully, there will be someone challenging the mayor and at least four candidates for the three Trustee positions. By the way, I consider election challenges to be a positive development so the present decision is not all bad if it does generate competition at the ballot box. I don’t think that was the aim of the four Trustees, however.
Here is a potential problem with the Board of Trustees rush to change the ordinances. Let’s say that I decide to run for the Board of Trustees (and I certain am not saying, at this time, that I am going to do so), and I get elected along with Trustees Hermann and Kaufman who had previously voted against the proposed amendments. Each of us campaigned on the position that if elected we would reverse the previous Board’s position. Furthermore, the mayor is defeated by a candidate who also campaigned to repeal the amendments.
But wait, in the mean time, both grocery stores applied for and received the new grocery store liquor licenses. Both stores remodeled their store to sell beer and wine and cut merchandise in other areas to make room for beer and wine. Both stores are now selling beer and wine.
I and the new mayor both campaigned to repeal the ordinances. I certain would vote to do so since I now have a voter sanctioned mandate. The ordinances are repealed. Both grocery stores spent thousands of dollars in anticipation of selling beer and wine as legally allowed and now because of the repeal of the ordinance, they must return to compliance with the previous liquor ordinance.
Would it not have been better to wait a few more months since there was no compelling reason to pass the changes immediately and get a better idea through an election whether or not the amendments were actually supported by the people rather than cause possibly negative ramifications in the business community? What will businesses looking at Morton with the intent to build here think of such an unsettled governmental environment—where an ordinance is overturned in less than a year after passage? Sometimes, circumspection is the better part of governance.
I, for one, hope that these amendments are the CENTRAL ISSUE in the next two elections. Let the chips fall where they may. The present Board of Trustees has thrown down the gauntlet. The question is, will the opposition rise to the challenge. I hope so!
“He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me, scatters.” [said by JESUS] Luke 11: 23 (NIV)
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight.” I Corinthians 3: 19a (NIV)
“For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline.” II Timothy 1: 7 (NIV)
“Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn’t do it, sins.” James 4: 17 (NIV)
“Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.” Galatians 6: 7-8 (NIV)
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